Agenda and minutes
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Public Open Forum
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The SACRE thanked consultees for the responses received.
It was noted that schools were grateful to receive the draft in a timely manner. It was observed that some concerns were raised in discussion with schools regarding the phrasing/tone of the document which could be interpreted as at variance with the freedom that schools are encouraged to embrace to develop a bespoke curriculum noting that practitioners don’t always have time to read the document.
It was commented that the reason for highlighting the comments in the agreed syllabus is that the legal summary in the Welsh Government Guidance is incorrect. It should state that “the religious traditions in Wales are in the main Christian while taking account of the teaching and practices of the other principal religions represented in Wales” and that “a range of non-religious philosophical convictions are held in Wales” and that the only change from the 1996 Act is that Wales replaces Great Britain. The Welsh Government document makes clear that the curriculum is bespoke and non-prescriptive. It is SACRE’s obligation to ensure that the agreed syllabus aligns with legislation. In the legal summary, the emphasis on new elements draws attention from the elements that are staying the same. It was suggested that the section under consideration could be added as an appendix or to a different section but decided to retain the section in its original position.
The Pupil Voice responses were warmly received and it was queried if these could be included as an appendix.
The importance of communicating well with practitioners was stressed noting that highlighting the above points is drawing attention away from the syllabus.
It was noted that a practitioner will go to the Hwb for the curriculum, then the agreed syllabus commenting that if these mirror each other, there will be no issue. It is well known within the profession that teachers teach mainly Christianity while also taking account of other principal religions.
It was confirmed that many authorities in Wales have their agreed syllabus in place and are adopting the Welsh Government RVE guidance. A few have not yet got an agreed syllabus in place.
It was agreed that an explanation is needed to explain the concerns about the legal summary. Training on the document can be provided to schools and this will highlight the concerns and issues on the legal aspects to provide clarity.
It was suggested that bracketed points are added as follows:
• the religious traditions in Wales are in the main Christian while taking account of the teaching and practices of the other principal religions represented in Wales (this is a continuation of the Education Act 1996);
• that a range of non-religious philosophical convictions are held in Wales (this is an addition as part of the Curriculum for Wales 2022).
It was agreed that use of the Pupil Voice submissions would be subject to the permission of contributing schools being obtained. It is also important to be certain we have taken account of ... view the full minutes text for item 3.
The minutes of the previous meeting on 26th April 2022 were confirmed as an accurate record subject to the addition of apologies for absence from Nick Pryor.
It was noted that comments were received that the consultation period was short. This was acknowledged noting that some consultees were able to respond within the limited timescales bearing in mind the need to progress the syllabus for implementation in schools in September.
A comment from Humanists UK has been addressed by the addition of some additional wording to clarify that Humanism is a non-religious philosophical conviction.
Actions were confirmed as:
· Taking note of G. Edward’s comments and alter/amend the Humanist reference accordingly;
· It was discussed that it may be better to delay circulation of a Google form to all schools in Monmouthshire.
· The legal section will remain the same with the addition of brackets to explain what is new and what has stayed the same.
· Add clarification to the Complaints section